Today's interior luminescence package

"Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo" (thetomselleck) 01/05/2018 at 14:21 • Filed to: Chandelier

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“57,000 can lights” is the theme. Plus two chandeliers.

Needs more coverage IMO

Electric bills be damned

Pray to God none of these burn out.

Reminds me of a...

Portuguese Man O War

I think the ring is out of place here...



You’ll be scooping dead moths out of these for the duration of your occupancy.

Duck Duck Grey Duck FTMFW! > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 14:23

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Lol! Your comments! Best!

Xyl0c41n3 > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 14:28

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Those chandeliers are... not good.

LOREM IPSUM > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 14:29

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As an Insulator by trade, I fucking despise pot lights (also, the electricians who can’t properly install a poly boot to save their lives.)

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 14:31

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all those can lights...

BaconSandwich is tasty. > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 14:31

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That much pot (lights) should be illegal.

(Okay, that was a pretty poor attempt at a pun. But the dead moth comment did make me chuckle).

TheRealBicycleBuck > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 14:34

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The homeowner’s favorite book:

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 14:37

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Another example that money can’t buy taste.

thejustache > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 14:39

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As a sometimes photographer/videographer overhead lighting makes me cringe. That many overhead lights and I’m trying to keep from seizing in my desk chair!

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 14:41

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I love can lights, though! This is kind of overkill, but they have the right idea. With LEDs, which I bet these are, they probably won’t go out or have any problems with them before they sell the house, so it’ll probably never trouble the owner.

And yeah, we have a chandelier that is horrible that I want to get rid of. It is an inverted cloche (there’s a reason these things are the shape they are, and it’s to keep dust OFF things, you flip them over and the fill with it) with lights inside hanging from the HIGHEST CEILING IN THE ENTIRE HOUSE (20+ feet) above the stairs. Just over 2 months in and it’s full of dust/dirt, the lights are dirty, and I cannot figure out how to get up there...

Oh, a quick search returned a picture of it in the top results:

I’m growing an unreasonable hatred for interior designers. These people clearly need remedial physics courses.

WilliamsSW > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 14:42

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Nice cans!

Chariotoflove > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 14:42

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I hope those can lights aren’t incandescents. Changing them will be a full time job.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 14:44

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What do you look at or look for when you visit these homes?

BigBlock440 > Chariotoflove 01/05/2018 at 14:44

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I don’t think anything’s really incandescent anymore. And based on the lenses, I’m betting they’re LED fixtures, it doesn’t look like there’s a bulb meant to be changed in them.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > LOREM IPSUM 01/05/2018 at 14:44

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Insulator by trade: ew.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 14:46

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Were in the process of putting 12 or 13 can lights in around 700 square feet. 5 are in the kitchen though which needs more light.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > BigBlock440 01/05/2018 at 14:47

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And at 10+ years of continuous use for the average LED, they will almost certainly be replaced by new fixtures long before the emitters fail.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/05/2018 at 14:54

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I mostly just look for any ladders or tools that someone left behind so I can sell them in order to financially support my heroin addiction.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 14:55

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NSFW.

Chariotoflove > BigBlock440 01/05/2018 at 14:56

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I have incandescent cans. I sure hope those are LED on a new project.

punkgoose17 > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 14:58

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This whole house is horrible. Sliding windows, horrible can lights, a two story kitchen ceiling that is open, and nasty chandeliers. Those can lights look really cheap. Maybe they should have painted the ceiling white, so the lights blend in.

Is the living room ceiling really short, or are you really tall?

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > punkgoose17 01/05/2018 at 15:01

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I’m halfway up the stairs on that photo

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 01/05/2018 at 15:02

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White guy looks down from his balcony as four underpaid workers endanger their lives for no good reason.

user314 > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 01/05/2018 at 15:09

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Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 15:11

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“Don’t worry , I will risk my lift to change this light bulb.”

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 15:12

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Please accept my apology for having asked. Lots of construction and trades in my experience and immediate family, so your many posts are always of interest.

WilliamsSW > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 15:12

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If you said it was to support your Japanese luxury vehicle habit I would have believed this

Dark chocolate > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 15:16

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I need to install cans in approx 4 rooms in my house (2011 construction)

- master bedroom (4-6 cans in 16 feet by 30 ft)

- Second Master (upstairs) (3-4 cans in 14 feet by 25 ft) 

- formal living room (6-8 cans in 20 ft by 20 ft)

- Kids room (upstairs) (4-6 cans in 16 feet by 18 ft) 

Questions 

- how do I calculate of the said no of cans / sq footage is enough

-how do I make sure I use the right personnel to do the job (I am in Houston, TX)

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/05/2018 at 15:19

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Don’t apologize, this is always my non-answer because I never answer the question.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 15:22

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Fair enough. I came in hot a long time ago to you because I hadn’t found my voice here yet. Apologies for that one, too.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > WilliamsSW 01/05/2018 at 15:24

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Nothing says luxury like a factory tape deck

Urambo Tauro > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 15:24

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Cathedral & two-story ceilings are so overrated.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > punkgoose17 01/05/2018 at 15:25

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Seriously, who designs this shit? Are they hiring architects straight out of highschool now?

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 15:27

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Ceiling pox.

gmctavish needs more space > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 15:28

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Luxury

fintail > punkgoose17 01/05/2018 at 15:28

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That’s how we roll for new builds in the PNW. And it’s probably a soul-crushing commute from employment centers, and can be yours for a mere 700K.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 15:28

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fintail > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 01/05/2018 at 15:29

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Architects? For Seattle area tract housing? Surely you jest :)

fintail > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 15:30

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Reminds me of a midrange hotel. Welcome to your room at the newly remodeled Marriott.

Mill Creek? Kent/Renton?

WilliamsSW > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 15:32

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but those gauges are gorgeous

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > fintail 01/05/2018 at 15:34

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Ahh...so they just spin a giant wheel with different house features when they put it together. Makes sense

Quadradeuce > Eric @ opposite-lock.com 01/05/2018 at 15:43

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I love can lights too, especially as accents to a main fixture, but they could cut that shit by a third!

fintail > MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s 01/05/2018 at 15:46

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Yep. Then out comes the cardboard, pressboard, plywood for high stress areas, and the staple guns and glue to hold it all together. Then you can buy a nice 3000 sq ft high cost low quality mini mansion on a 3600 sq ft lot, for a mere 750K and an hour commute each way.

punkgoose17 > fintail 01/05/2018 at 15:46

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That is a soul crushing price as well.

fintail > punkgoose17 01/05/2018 at 15:46

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Welcome to metro Seattle. We hope you enjoy your stay :)

BigBlock440 > Chariotoflove 01/05/2018 at 15:57

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I have incandescents too, you can see the bulb on mine if you look into it and they don’t have a cover. Those look exactly like the LEDs that my parents have, so I’m going to assume they are.

XJDano > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 16:00

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Do the contractors leave the proctive film with paint for the new owners to remove like buying new electronic devices? So they can say, I know it’s new because I took the plastic off.

Chariotoflove > BigBlock440 01/05/2018 at 16:17

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Yeah, and the light from them these days is better, too.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > fintail 01/05/2018 at 17:46

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Bothell

fintail > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 18:25

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South Mill Creek

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > fintail 01/05/2018 at 18:52

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Or southwest Snohomish!

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Dark chocolate 01/05/2018 at 19:01

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Answers

1) I dunno, I’m not an electrician. I’d put one in each corner, set back 3 or 4 feet from the walls.

2) I dunno, I am struggling to find decent subcontractors myself. I’ve owned my home for just three years but it already feels like I have half a dozen “don’t use those guys” stories.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > XJDano 01/05/2018 at 19:02

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Yes they do.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars 01/05/2018 at 19:03

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Kitchens always need more light. Mine is a dungeon after dark thanks to our awful vaulted skylight

LOREM IPSUM > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 01/05/2018 at 20:11

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It’s not all bad. I mean, how many times have YOU been to Whistler? Lol

Seriously though, some of the better materials aren’t that terrible to work with. The job is not without it’s headaches, that’s for sure, but I’ve been doing it long enough to pick and choose where I’m working and am actually compensated quite well, so I can’t complain.

I mean, I still complain, but you’re not a real Insulator if you’re not bitching about something.

The lack of parking is usually at the top of the list, followed by idiots doing their jobs incorrectly thus screwing us, overzealous CSO’S, site supers with unreasonable expectations, often the architect who designed the place, Roxul™, and on and on it goes.

And traffic.

BigBlock440 > Chariotoflove 01/05/2018 at 20:42

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It’s brighter, but it’s harsher. I’m not a fan of LED light, all the color of stuff just washes out, at least with most of them.

ranwhenparked > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 21:39

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Who owns that place? Erich Honecker?

fintail > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 21:57

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Realtors will claim north-north-north Seattle or northeast Redmond

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > fintail 01/05/2018 at 21:59

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“Just minutes from downtown*!”

*Cathcart

fintail > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/05/2018 at 22:01

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or *110 minutes, 220 minutes in the rain

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > LOREM IPSUM 01/06/2018 at 00:03

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I think you could cut and paste a few words and get most any tradesman’s rant. I am a public school educator, but I also claim to be a photographer, mechanic, carpenter, musician and an electrician. Well, a solid apprentice electrician... Variety is the spice of life and if I had to do one trade all day long, I’d probably get bored.

Chariotoflove > BigBlock440 01/06/2018 at 01:09

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I agree until recently. LEDs made me feel like fluorescents sucking your soul, but there seem to warmer options recently.